In the Shadow of Elvish – The Black Speech and Orcish

Ash Zhâbur Durbatulûk – One Speech to rule them all

Category: Elvish

Stars are shining on our meetings

Here is the Quenya greeting Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo “A star shines on the hour of our meeting” in different dialects. Notice the similarities between Zhâbuir A and Svartiska on the one hand and Zhâburi and Angband Orcish on the other. The main difference between Zhâburi A and B is that A is based on Svartiska and B is based on Angband Orcish (which in turn has developed from Primitive Elvish). Note that the word for shine “drau-” is used in Zhâburi A, Svartiska and Land of Shadow. The Svartiska word shrakhum “meeting” is from the Rukh Nulûrz dialect. (20.05.15) I have added the sentence in the Rukh Nulûrz dialect. It is of course very similar to the Land of Shadow variant.

Zhâburi B
Zhân shilugar zhûm-ishi banar-bak’khu

Angband Orkiska
Zhán shila zhúm-shi banar-ghu dimba.

Zhâburi A
Kâlt draut îlishi banarbagûb

Ash ûlûrag drauat za-ilûsh gurobi shrakhumob

Land of Shadow
Ilz drauat sib-shi traf-ob izubu

Rukh Nulûrz
Ilz draugat sib-shi shrakhum’ob izubu







Zhâburi: A star shines on the hour of our meeting

In the last post I wrote a Angband Orcish version of the Quenya greeting elen síla lúmenn’  omentielvo “a star shines on the hour of our meeting”. Here is the same sentence in Zhâburi.

Zhân shilugar zhûm-ishi banar-bak’khu

A star shines [repeatedly; usually] on the hour of our meeting

zhân “star”
shil- “shine”; -u- intransitive; -g present tense; -ar iterative aspect, marking that this is usually the case.
zhûm”hour”, “time”
-ishi “on the”
banar “meeting”
-bak “our” (1 person inclusive)
–khu “of”, genitive

Which can be compared to the one in Angband Orcish

Zhán shila zhúm-shi banar-ghu dimba.

The Hunter – words Angband Orcish

I was thinking about the awakening of the Elves and how they spoke about the Hunter and how the elves disappeared. They must have been talking about this Hunter in Primitive Elvish and I’m happen to be working on my Angband Orcish descended from Primitive Elvish. So I thought that the concept of the Hunter, hunt and so on could would be interesting in Angband Orcish as well. It would also function as a way to illustrate my idea of the connection between Primitive Elvish and Angband Orcish.

So the Primitive Elvish word for “to hunt, pursue” “hunt” is ✶sparā (which gives Quenya fara v. (a-verb) “to hunt”) from SPAR root. “hunt”. 

To this root we can attach the masculine agental ending and we get PE *sparnô “hunter”. The development is then loss of final vowel and then the loss of initial s in the consonant cluster sp which also lengthens the vowel > pârn ”The Hunter” (the article had not developed in Primitive Elvish yet as it would in Common Eldarin). This could then be Angband Orcish name for Melkor or maybe Sauron.

The root SPAR can also develop in other directions and give us more words. I imagine a augment of the stem like RUK > uruk“orc”. So SPAR > Proto Orcish aspar “predator” and then a sound shift in the middle consonant cluster > Angband Orcish ashpar “predator”.

When the old word for “hunter” pârn became “The Hunter” a new word for a ordinary hunter was needed. From the verb proto Orcish “to hunt” pâr– the agental ending –ad (where the a really is a redoubling of the stem vowel) is added > pârad. This ending is both inspired by the Hurrian agental dervative suffix –ade and the Primitive Elvish agental ending –.

So from the Primitive Elvish word sparâ we got three new words:

Pârn “the mystical Hunter” Melkor, Sauron or just some other entity.

ashpar “predator”

pârad “hunter”